I second this.

>>Wasn't this just turned off because tactics were teleporting people to melee?

No. You could actually bob at pole range and it would teleport you to melee. Not the same thing.

>>I don't think bob ever did that. You could weave at pole and be teleported to melee.

Weave was the main one identified, but all tactics move did it IIRC.

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>>Weave was the main one identified, but all tactics move did it IIRC.

Bob was the only one that didn't, presumably because it never checked the opponent's stats or position, so it didn't matter what range you were at. But it got turned off along with the other moves.

>>I hope to soon deploy some changes, and these changes will allow the use of bob at missile range and circle/weave at pole and melee.

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>>folks may want to use it for missile or pole ranged combat. So, auto-advancing would defeat this.

Yeah! Anything to make pole range viable as something other than a buffer between missle and melee!

Since we're talking about auto-advance and stuff, is there any way that you could make it so if I'm advancing with my pole weapon and hit pole range, it won't auto-charge to melee when I swing? I always forget to manually stop advancing and then I charge everywhere all the freaking time. My work-around for this (since I can't seem to remember to stop advancing for the life of me) is just to stand still when something is advancing on me, throw a dazzle or MB out when the mob hits pole range, and then alternate disablers and quarterstaves to the face.

On second thought, I find charge annoying all the time anyway. Any chance there could be a verb that is used only for charging attacks (could be LUNGE CHARGE or SLICE CHARGE or something similar to the old feint commands), and just let other attack commands message that you're not close enough (and then start the auto-advance)?

wow... random post full of a few loosely related suggestions... here's another: Could there be a way to attempt to maintain missle/pole range by forcing the advancer to succeed at a Xskill vs. Tactics check to see if they can close on me? If I've got a big *$%@-off stick meant to hit someone a couple yards away while they're brandishing a pocketknife at me, it seems reasonable to assume part of my fighting style will be keeping them in range of my stick while keeping myself out of range of their knife.

Ok. Just a few ideas that popped into my head. Thanks!

Well, for weaving you need to be able to move around the enemy to get it off balance. That is hard to do if the enemy is flying and incapable of being put off balance... I'll have to code up a special set of rules for bob someday. It isn't an easy thing to add.

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>>I do not them auto advancing because folks may want to use it for missile or pole ranged combat. So, auto-advancing would defeat this.

I thought auto-advancing only happens if it can't be triggered at that range.

Like if I'm stationary and I swing a weapon at pole range that can hit at pole range, I don't try to advance and/or charge.

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