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Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 11/30/2011 01:01 PM CST

It used to be that heavy plate outperformed brawling weapons. Is this the case with forged brawling weapons?

If so, which brawling weapons offer the best impact damage? If not, should I invest in heavier gauntlets to do more damage while punching?

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 11/30/2011 02:18 PM CST

>It used to be that heavy plate outperformed brawling weapons. Is this the case with forged brawling weapons?

Short of a serious statistical analysis with a large pool sample, there's no way to know.

>which brawling weapons offer the best impact damage?

Plain knuckles.

>If not, should I invest in heavier gauntlets to do more damage while punching?

Armor as a brawling weapon only takes type into account. All heavy plate is equally damaging.

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 11/30/2011 05:16 PM CST

>>Armor as a brawling weapon only takes type into account. All heavy plate is equally damaging.

It may just be lavender v2.0, but I could have sworn weight mattered too. 200 stone hp gauntlets would provide a bigger impact boost than 50 stone hp gauntlets.

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 11/30/2011 08:58 PM CST

>It may just be lavender v2.0, but I could have sworn weight mattered too.

Don't have a post to quote, my memory just says "doesn't matter." I'm about 85-90% sure on it.

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 11/30/2011 10:09 PM CST

>which brawling weapons offer the best impact damage?

>Plain knuckles.

I am thoroughly confused by the brawling appraisal scale, but according to pretty much any scale anyone has ever posted, plain knuckles are absolutely horrible compared to spiked knuckles. The plain knuckles do less impact than spiked, and way way less slicing damage.

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 12/01/2011 01:37 AM CST

>>I am thoroughly confused by the brawling appraisal scale, but according to pretty much any scale anyone has ever posted, plain knuckles are absolutely horrible compared to spiked knuckles. The plain knuckles do less impact than spiked, and way way less slicing damage.

Plain knuckles do more impact damage. The appraisal scale is really, really weird. "Some" impact damage is a higher appraisal category than "quite a bit."
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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 12/01/2011 01:52 AM CST

>>The appraisal scale is really, really weird. "Some" impact damage is a higher appraisal category than "quite a bit."

100% agree here

>>Plain knuckles do more impact damage.

This part has me confused though. We talking about forged plain "knuckles"? I've never seen anyone make those with more than "a lot" of impact damage, which is less than "quite a bit" (for example, see Caraamon's weapons list)

I have, on the other hand, seen spiked knuckles with "some" impact damage, PLUS "some" slice damage. I sell them in my shop (plus elbow spikes, knee spikes and hand claws with Some/Some damage, go buy some!)

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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 12/01/2011 02:14 AM CST

>>This part has me confused though. We talking about forged plain "knuckles"? I've never seen anyone make those with more than "a lot" of impact damage, which is less than "quite a bit" (for example, see Caraamon's weapons list)

Brawling ranges are so broad it's impossible for me to say with certainty, but brawling is one of Malkien's primary weapons, and he seems to vaporize more skulls by punching with his plain knuckles than he did with his spiked knuckles. Of course, this is offset by the total lack of slice damage...

Agree that spiked knuckles are better, regardless.
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Re: Brawling Weapons vs. Heavy Plate 12/01/2011 12:13 PM CST

My answer was base on the fact that at the same weight, weapons have the same total points (exceptions for handedness, special thingies, and material variations). Since as far as I can tell, brawling weapons lack any sort of suitedness or balance stat, damage can be compared directly.

High carbon steel at 20 stones, plain knuckles are "no/no/a lot" and spiked are "no/a lot/a lot."

Thus, even with the numbers hidden, for those two templates to be even, the spiked knuckles must be far lower in both their "a lot" category than plain knuckles.

As question was "which brawling weapons offer the best impact damage?" so long as brawling weapons play by the same rules as other weapons, I had assumed it was plain knuckles.

However, the weight/damage progression does make me question this. At 25 stones, plain knuckles are "no/poor increase/a lot" and spiked are "no/quite a bit/quite a bit."

Thus I will change my answer to "plain knuckles at low weights, and spiked knuckles at higher weights.... I think."

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