I can't imagine why thrown attacks from hiding would be any less feasible than bow attacks. I love the idea, even though being survival tert would probably bar me out from the ability. I wish abilities like this were skill based.


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>>Of course you do, you use magic.

So?


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>>So, you want to be able to snipe as survival tert with enough skill, because it's mundane?

No, because it's a skill feat, or should be, in my opinion. I think everyone should be able to charge worn cambrinth with enough skill too, I don't know why you're slapping mundane on it.


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>>Because it is a mundane act. I.E. - One that does not involve magic at all.

Again, so? I'm merely saying I'd like thrown from hiding to be a skill feat, mundane or not. What's the problem?


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>>Non-magic users are more restricted

Define, restricted? Thieves have supernatural abilities that, while not magic, cannot be considered "mundane". Barbarians abilities surely aren't "mundane". I mean cmon, you're laying on the ground missing limbs, stunned... and in a flash you are on your feet, full of vitality, ready to go! Then you bellow forth a roar and kill everyone around you as they suffer heart attacks.... such a situation is possible, and hardly "mundane" :P

Now, most guilds have their tricks. I would definately love to see snipe thrown become a thief ability. LT is kinda lacking in the oomph department last I checked... perhaps even be a barbarian feat for the HT side. Think, American Indian leaping out at the invading westerners, lodging a hatchet deep into their skull then ducking back out of sight. Or, Norse Viking bellowing forth from the bush, lodging a spear into some witless prey then ducking back to safety...

One reason why most mages would like access to stealth feats is because of the powerful factor it plays in PvP. Mages have no TM snipe. They are just deer waiting out in the open to be slaughtered :cackle:

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Noooo but,, but,, Berserks/Dances/Roars/Thiefs special abilites are MAJIKUL!

Nah, some posters just refer to magic like it is this big unique bonus. The reality is that any special ability, magical or not, can provide a bonus. Several posters feel that if a guild has access to magic, they should be CUT OFF, REMOVED, EXCLUDED and RESTRICTED from various things. That is just nonsense if you ask me.

Always remember that mages give up a primary skillset to have access to magic. One entire set of skills that learn at an improved pace, so they can train those skills, so they can eventually get access to spells that provide abilities.

No, rather some of the questions that need answering are - Does this ability enhance an aspect of the guild that is lacking? Can this guild gain access to this ability without becoming overpowered? Compared to their other abilities, does this new one duplicate any existing effects? Should this ability be restricted to just one guild, and thusly considered a guild-perk? Does this ability fit the niche this guild inhabits?

Not... does this guild use magic? Yeah? Ok we can't let them have this then because magical guilds already are too powerful or something. That makes no sense.

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A mage's primary skill set is magic. While it only has 5 skills in it it is still learned at the primary rate. Plus four of the skills can be learned outside of combat comparatively easily. Whereas a barbarian really need to put themselves out into danger to learn thier primary skills. It's not a major thing but I didn't want someone out there to think that you learned at the secondary rates that others do.

Magic Prime guilds must also take Lore as a secondary skillset don't forget. Lore is useless for combat, and makes training combat skills much slower a process. Effectively a WM circles at a tertiary pace if they hope to keep defenses in line with TM. Nonmagic users guilds don't necessarily experience this limitation.

If the mage wants to get the skill to be a good knife thrower, I say let him be a good knife thrower. Whether or not they can snipe with that knife from the shadows - well first SOMEONE has to have that ability. I'm all for making it guild restricted to thieves and possibly barbarians if it means someone can do it.

If it does make sense for some mages to have it, perhaps tie the feat into requiring a spell in effect to use the feat. Rising mists is all concealing and whatnot. Shadows too. Perhaps tie it into one of those. Kind of like how barbs need to dance eagle to get the bow feats.

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>>I do not foresee Snipe in any form being anything but a survival prime ability.

Here's to my dreams of becomming a ninja. Heh.


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