Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/19/2009 01:39 PM CST
Has been updated!

I have yet to go through all the new data I've received via email, but I've finished the end of the chart and fixed a few errors here and there.

We especially need data on the low end and in the mid ranges.

Also, please note that there are interstitial patterns that don't fall neatly into the Tier (vertical) pattern. However, all patterns to follow the same progression (horizontally) within a Tier.

There are some weird submissions in there that I've opted to not edit until I can prove otherwise, but I seriously doubt the validity of anything that doesn't follow the progression pattern.

I'm still trying to figure out how the interstitial patterns fit into the overall scheme of things.

Thanks!
GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/19/2009 03:33 PM CST
You is my hero.

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/19/2009 04:24 PM CST
Updated again.

I put in some ? on items that didn't mesh with my data. I will remove them when I confirm they are correct, or someone shows me otherwise.

Thanks!

GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 03:12 AM CST
what site?


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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 06:33 AM CST
600 study factor, 630 fold factor puts me right in the range to test some of the Gilded Raven, Cow and Ox patters, but I don't have any of them. Particularly if someone figures out the scholarship boost formula for skeletons.

IM me at HanryuDR (or find me in game) if you have these patterns and so I can post my results, please.

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 09:15 AM CST
I don't even need you to fold them, as long as you can copy/paste your READ of the instructions.

There are a few people in Prime with a grimoire (which has every pattern available) that might be able to hook you up with a read, or I'm sure some folks bought the patterns at the festival.

And I should probably have mentioned awhile ago, but HULDAHS-PAL/Ysselt and Zihnj in TF have been extremely helpful in getting this data collected. I couldn't have done anything without them!

GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 09:40 AM CST
>I don't even need you to fold them, as long as you can copy/paste your READ of the instructions.

Can do if someone hooks me up :D

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 09:43 AM CST
>Can do if someone hooks me up :D

Call me.

WINK WINK.

Or just find me IG, and you can see my grimoire. I trust you, since I know you. And Nick would kill you if you ran off with it. :D


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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 10:03 AM CST
I've got all the dark god patterns (I see shrike, shrew, adder and weasel missing), 25 in all stats, 171 scholarship and 103 mech. Never touched origami before buying these patterns, though. Tell me what you need me to do oh great Gent and Ysselt.


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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 10:41 AM CST
Where are the grimoires from? The fest?
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 10:48 AM CST
They've only ever been auction items, as far as I know.


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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 10:48 AM CST
>>Where are the grimoires from? The fest?

Yeah they were an auction item
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 11:48 AM CST
>Call me.
>WINK WINK.

I'll track you down tonight.

> And Nick would kill you if you ran off with it. :D

It's true, he knows where I live!

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 04:50 PM CST
Thilan,

Post or email the results of your READing of each of the instructions. Pertinent stats/skills that are required are your Agility, Intelligence, your Scholarship and your Mech Lore skills.

If you check out elanthipedia, there is a more detailed explanation of how these stats/skills work with the origami system. But I can use the raw numbers to figure everything out on my own.

It is most helpful to me to see how your READs change as your skills/stats grow, especially on the cusps.

For instance, if it takes 450 FF (folding factor) to read a pattern and you have 449, it is very helpful to see you read it at 449 and 450 FF. This confirms the placement of a pattern for the most part.

I'm mostly interested in the patterns at the low/mid ends of the chart. The top end is confirmed and done with for the most part. Anything below gilded goshawk is in the tricky area, and I'd like more data in those areas. Also, at the very low end, I'm still trying to find data for the easiest patterns found at the festival.

Thanks!
SEAN/Gent
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/20/2009 07:17 PM CST
You glance at the cow instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold.

You glance at the raven instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

You read quickly through the ox instructions. You find that you recognize almost all of the folds, and think that you could probably make this without too much trouble. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold.

You glance at the wolverine instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

Scholarship: 377
Mechanical Lore: 457
87 agil
45 intel

Fold factor = 631
Study factor = 602

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/29/2009 06:30 PM CST
Mech = 461
Agility = 89
Fold factor = 639
Scholar = 380
Intel = 45
Study factor = 605

You glance at the raven instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

10 mana CS = +2 Agility
You skim briefly through the ox instructions, and instantly visualize how it works. None of the folds are new to you, and you're pretty sure you could easily make this. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold.

15 mana = +3 Agility
You glance at the ox instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold.

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/29/2009 09:44 PM CST
Is that the regular raven or the gilded raven pattern in that snippet?

Thank you for these data points! We're almost finished!

GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/29/2009 10:37 PM CST
Finally got around to checking out those missing instructions that I had. Hope this helps, Gent.

Agility: 25
Intel: 25
Scholarship: 180
Mech Lore: 114

You get some weasel instructions from inside a secure vault.
You read through the weasel instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.
Roundtime: 3 seconds.

You get some shrew instructions from inside a secure vault.
You glance at the shrew instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.
Roundtime: 3 seconds.

You get some gilded shrike instructions from inside a secure vault.
You glance at the shrike instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.
Roundtime: 3 seconds.

You get some adder instructions from inside a secure vault.
You glance at the adder instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.
Roundtime: 3 seconds.


~Thilan
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/29/2009 10:52 PM CST
>Thilan

Thanks! Keep me updated as things change.

Gilded Nightingale, Weasel, Coyote and Boar are all in your range-ish or will be soon. Those would be helpful.

Thanks again!

GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/30/2009 06:15 AM CST
Gilded Raven.

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/30/2009 07:57 AM CST
Also, I think it would be better to combine the tables once everything is fleshed out and use either bold/italic/* or another column to designate origin. It would be easier to find a pattern that matches your FF/SF that way, IMO.

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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 11/30/2009 09:52 AM CST
Agreed.

I don't think that I originally set those tables up -- but my plan is to combine the two tables and denote where the patterns are from in a separate column.

Thanks

GENT
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Re: Origami Chart on Elanthipedia 12/02/2009 10:52 AM CST
<<I don't think that I originally set those tables up -- but my plan is to combine the two tables and denote where the patterns are from in a separate column.

Done.

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