Small bits of a useless skill for something that can (and does) happen when some scripter happens to walk through the room? Surely you can exert a bit of energy and go read a book in the library.


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Sorry if I seemed snippy. I feel there's too many ways to "do nothing" or next to nothing to learn certain skills IG as is. I don't see them devoting the already-thinly-spread GM dev time to this, but good luck.


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gah your forcing my characters to learn scholarship and infringing on my RPingness!!!@one!!11 how dare you magical singing typeses force my dumb as a brick elothean dirt farmer learn any scholarship at all!?

<snicker> figured someone was gonna say it.. so I might as well lead the charge.

And, for my dear Dartenian, that stole the name of the kitten I lost when I was five, whose name I stole from the three muskateer's, I leave... a boot to the head.

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I really hate to agree with Vorghaf, but my barbarian really wants his voice to recover faster for the roars, and I really hate learning Vocals by spamming strangers. I've pounded 50 tertiary ranks out of it, I'd hate to do another 100 or so.

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Apis the Cleric's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

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> but spamming for exp needs to go the way of the dodo.

As an envoy from the IADRONR(International Association of Dodo Resurrection and Otherwise Necromantic Restoration) I am deeply offended by your post.

-Durnil

I am doing scales and arpeggios for instrumental music practice, and I'll probably do the same for Vocals, at least as one option. Again, a lot will depend on what I find when I get brave enough to delve into the Sing code a bit deeper. So far I'm in over my head in PLAY, and its reallllly skeery down here! Hellllp!


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I forgot the verb, sorry. Check Olwydd. It's just an rp tool for Bards currently (imagine that), so being myself I managed to forget it the first day i made my Bard cause it had no combat applications.

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Apis the Cleric's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

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That's the one. No, it doesn't teach any Vocals. But Bards have enchantes for vocals. Designate practice or some similar verb as a universal verb and make it teach Vocals like juggling teaches Perception. Just an idea I had. As long as you come up with something, Dart, that lets me learn Vocals without spamming crowds then I will be happy!

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Apis the Cleric's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

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>>I've heard barbarians sing!

I represent that remark.

Any decent way to get my vocals up would be nice, from lecturing during classes to being able to sing off key scales, or even smooshing sing down into the play group so we could >play voice playful.

mfberg

Why not add something like Modus has, where you learn a small amount of vocals (and incur a small RT) with HUMMING?



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Lots of people say they want Teaching to be worth something. How about making a skill that necessarily involves lots of talking and gesticulating teach vocals?

If LECTURE while teaching a class is going to be considered, might as well ask for the TEACH/LISTEN combo to teach it.


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It does. With a couple thousand hours in the right classes, you can jump straight to Trollkin or better. No need to waste your time on no-account goblins or rats.

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<<The less people in your class the better they learn (specialized attention). It would be a tradeoff, teach big classes (they still learn) so that the teacher learns best, teach smaller classes (the teacher still learns, but not anywhere close to the student).>>

I always thought that was more or less how teaching worked. One student alone learns better than four, but the four makes the teacher learn better. Maybe I've been mistaken, but that was always how it was explained.

~Chris

Brainstorm on the way home. Obviously it has some problems that would need unkinking.

I propose a PERFORM verb.

In order to do this, the person who wants to sing their song, types PERFORM SONG (or whatever)

Everyone in the room sees Joe is beginning a performance. To give him/her your attention, please LISTEN (or something LISTEN might interfere with the verb already).

So whoever is there, paying attention and doesn't mind hearing a song can type LISTEN (or whatever). People who are AFK or who don't want to be bothered.

So, 20 people in the room. 10 typed LISTEN. These people see the song as typed (or script as performed).

The 10 who did not could see something like Joe is performing his/her song. Joe is continuing his/her song. Less scroll - makes it sort of like an enchante.

When the song is done, the player would STOP PERFORM.

Vocals would be learned based on how many people listened, more people, more movement. At the end of the song, there could also be an APPRECIATE verb, if you think the person did particularly well. Because, of course, when you type LISTEN you won't know if that person will be singing nonsense or not. If you APPRECIATE them, perhaps the learning rate of their vocals would be enhanced.

Problems I noted:

Why would someone type STOP PERFORM. I'm sure there's huge flaws in there somewhere, but perhaps after a certain period with no input of SING, the performance would stop automatically.

Whats to stop someone from doing this with friends? Let's say that there is a timer. No more than 4 LISTENS/APPRECIATES in the span of an hour from the same person. This won't affect people who are performing singing to RP purely for concerts and the such.

Anyway. That's what I thought of.


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Interesting suggestion, Huldah's Pal. Now- Listen won't work if the listenner is part of a class already. But perhaps Observe or Watch could? Or perhaps let the audience decide whether they want to Listen to the performance or Listen to the class.

Ryeka


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i said this forever ago, but i'll say it again.

make sheets of music. easy ones, hard ones, whatever.

treat them as instruments that teach vocal.

ie:

play drums slow
You play your drums slow ::insert RT insert exp gain::

play sheet slow
You sign a slow tune ::insert RT insert exp gain::

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>How about letting us learn from singing to critters we're pulping?

Hmmm, even better, add a bit of risk to the whole equation and have the critters become enraged and come after you if you sing to them. See, then, risk vs. reward for practicing a skill.

>I'm ok with this, but what else are they going to do except try to kill me? (which they are already doing very well)

Actually critters don't normally do this, particularly if there's more than one person in the room. All this would be is like an empath casting Innocence around undead. Sorta fun, actually, and might be a really nice sorta trick for crowd control, actually.

>This should include a few fun things for everyone.

That would be way cool. I have a couple of charas that like to sing, just for the fun of it. Of course I have a lot of friends IRL who like to sing as well and I've been known to join in a time or two m'self.

Oh, something else that might be doable is a non-bard version of 'sing with' that teaches non-bards singing without them actually doing more than have the bard do a 'sing invite <person>' and the non-bard do a 'sing with <bard>', so basically it would be a way to teach singing in addition to the teach verb ... and would have the added benefit, in addition to role playing, of being able to teach more people if not a whole crowd.

Just my two cents on maybe another means of learning it without spamming the room, at least by anyone other than the bard.

> i still remember when in plat that one barbarian fellow used to serenade the swamp trolls...


I remember that chap too! I also fondly remember the time shortly after he left, when the singing swamp troll left its swamp on a quest to find its missing singing tutor...

Since then, we've also had Grendy the Dancing Grendel, who sometimes showed up at the northeast gate at night if someone was playing an instrument or singing.

Ah, the good ol' days!


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