Is there a way to learn scholarship other than mindlessly sitting in a class? I know spellbooks, but the shop isn't here any more - are there any other ways?

Thanks in advance

Archnor

>>Bead carving patterns are supposed to work too, but I've never tried them. I hear the scholarship isn't awarded until after bead completion.

Bead carving does indeed work, and the scholarship is awarded on the successful completion of a bead- especially if you studied a primer before you started carving.

If you're a cleric there is a slab in the Temple of Alduath in the Zaulfang swamp that will teach lots of scholarship as you study it.

If you're a bard, studying new song scrolls teaches scholarship. The trouble with that is that song scrolls cost, and are not always donated for young bards.

Hope that helps!

Ryeka

<<Bead carving does indeed work, and the scholarship is awarded on the successful completion of a bead- especially if you studied a primer before you started carving.

Is bead carving open to all guilds? if so, what materials are required and where can they be found?

thanks!

for materials:

you need a primer to study. if you are a non-cleric your best bet is getting one of the avatars of the neutral gods, as either the light <harder> or dark <hardest> are more difficult.

There are NPCs who sell these primers <no, they're not stealable, darnit>, around various cities in the realms. Aesry near the path to la'tamis,Dirge near the temple there,Theren by the quad, Riverhaven near the north gate, ratha near hodierna's temple, and somewhere <i forget exactly where> in shard you'll find various folks--battle priest, acolyte,etc. They also sell materials such as ritual knives to cut with <though any carving or skinning knife will do>, and preblessed,precarved blocks. the materials sold are a bit on the difficult side though, so if you can forage your own stick and get a cleric to bless it for you, you're better off.

The NPCs used to wander around, but then they multiplied too much <like there was like 25 shamans in dirge>, so they got rooted to one spot to curb their population, I think.

then just turn the primer to various pages,study it and read how to do it from there.

Any guild again can do it. Just takes alot of mech and scholarship, and only clerics <primary bonus> can do it for devotion, and paladins <secondary bonus> for soul.

Bead carvin is one of those things that is stuck in the middle of the void for most guilds. It should either be opened up more for all guild or made cleric only basically like lockpick carving. I am in favor of opening it up more to other guilds. Lets some of them stair at primers for hours on end and carve beads. Overall it is not so bad a thing and kind of fun at times However the amount of mech/scholorship for a non cleric, non pallie to carve one is just ungodly and really needs a serious TWEAK. I am not sayin make it something you can do with 20 ranks but I don't agree with the current set up either. It needs one of them tweakings.

Cadderrly

<<>>Any guild again can do it. Just takes alot of mech and scholarship, and only clerics <primary bonus> can do it for devotion, and paladins <secondary bonus> for soul.>>

Paladins do not get soul for this. We asked for it but clerics said "NO MINE"!

--Just a Squire

"spend 100 plats for a spell book that only works so so, or go listen to classes (and it becomes exceedingly difficult to find teachers as you get older)."

You can also read library books. They teach significantly better than they used to.


Heironymous

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"The only man who behaves sensibly is my tailor; he takes my measure anew every time he sees me, whilst all the rest go on with their old measurements, and expect them to fit me."

If you're doing it for exp only, find a long book, pause 12 seconds between each page (There's a noticeable loss of exp at 10 seconds).

---

Visionary Heroiklim Zortal

Heiu says, "By the end of the year I expect to see an explosion"
Heiu says, "Hold me to that if you want.... at Christmas"

Patterns work scholarship well up to like 250 ranks or so.


-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia

That's why it's called a shortcut; if it was easy it would just be "The Way"

I study it once (get 10 sec RT). When I get the messaging "The details of the pattern you had studied have finally slipped from your mind." I would study again.

OR

As part of my foraging script I'll forage 6 different items careful, then study the pattern once. Then repeat until foraging is locked.

OR

When I"m sitting around teaching a class, talking, or otherwise being rather bland, I have a script which waits for the "details" messaging and continually studies.

I have 121 scholarship, lore tert. Probably takes me about 10-15 minutes to lock though I haven't timed it. But I've found the patterns isn't so much about being mind locked as it is always having it moving some. A 10 second action to do when you have nothing else to do.

Jalika

So I remember reading about the books in the library teaching scholarship.
Do all books teach? Is the library the one that is supplied with DIR LIBRARY?

How well do they teach? I'm only 39 ranks of scholarship.

why is it that like everything that actually locks this skill eventually seems to get nerfed to the point where it would take hours to do it. I'm betting spellbooks are next. What gives?

>>I'm betting spellbooks are next.

Nope, pyramids again.

J'Lo, no that other one
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>And they teach quite well, if you don't read the same book over and over again. ~ Ryeka

Can you tell me how to effectively and efficiently achieve high mindstates in a reasonable amount of time using the library system? Since the change I have been unable to accomplish this. Thanks.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Perhaps some of your fantasy worlds do involve tingling when a porn star gently touches you, but I don't think that's the kind of fantasy Simu's going for. ~ Sefkowk

After the last rewrite I have been unable to consistently, efficiently, and effectively achieve higher mindstates of scholarship via the library system, via any number of methods I have tried, with 2 different characters of different stats/guilds/skill levels. So if you have discovered some way to do this, as your posts indicate, please share in as much detail as possible. I know I'm not the only one having trouble. Thanks! :)

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Perhaps some of your fantasy worlds do involve tingling when a porn star gently touches you, but I don't think that's the kind of fantasy Simu's going for. ~ Sefkowk

>The next time I go library-trotting, I'll make sure to take notes so I can share them.

Awesome, I appreciate it.

~Ranger Hanryu, Sword of House Calibanor
>Perhaps some of your fantasy worlds do involve tingling when a porn star gently touches you, but I don't think that's the kind of fantasy Simu's going for. ~ Sefkowk

Im able to lock out scholarship in libaries. Normally it takes a few book. Open a book. Read it for 4-5 minutes. Switch books. The exp gained from isnt set. So sometimes you'll gain more for reading the same book for the same amount of time. Books will not teach again until 5 minutes after you put it down. So rotate the books. Im able to lock on non wall ranks.

Scholarship ~100
Wis - 23
Int - 23
Dis - 23